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	<description>Religion. Brain. Dogen. Language. Japan.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3996</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PoTiDaOn - Poseidon

PoTiDaOn LINEAR B is understood in Polish Slavonic

PoTi - 'poty' - moisture dripping from skin 
PoTiDaOn - pray God give Rain
That is understood in Polish

Look at the evidence
4bn years Living World
50m Himalaya

4bn years the world was warm shallow sea
- warm PoTi dripping from heaven giving Life
Adam &#38; Eve calling rain PoTi - sweat-drops from God

50m IMPLOSION - plates breaking - sinking - making seas
making Oceans - making continents - colliding plates push 
Himalaya 6 mile up the sky - climate change - extinct dinosaurs
- making Oil Coal Gas - Warm South -Cold North

No more Warm shallow sea - no more warm drops of PoTi
God of Rain PoTiDaOn becomes god of sea Poseidon

Are there any Inca wards in LINEAR B?
Inca -- pre-50m Himalaya Inca?

If we fail to research Inca - China will

Link
http://muzeumsczytaja.info/page67.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PoTiDaOn - Poseidon</p>
<p>PoTiDaOn LINEAR B is understood in Polish Slavonic</p>
<p>PoTi - &#8216;poty&#8217; - moisture dripping from skin<br />
PoTiDaOn - pray God give Rain<br />
That is understood in Polish</p>
<p>Look at the evidence<br />
4bn years Living World<br />
50m Himalaya</p>
<p>4bn years the world was warm shallow sea<br />
- warm PoTi dripping from heaven giving Life<br />
Adam &amp; Eve calling rain PoTi - sweat-drops from God</p>
<p>50m IMPLOSION - plates breaking - sinking - making seas<br />
making Oceans - making continents - colliding plates push<br />
Himalaya 6 mile up the sky - climate change - extinct dinosaurs<br />
- making Oil Coal Gas - Warm South -Cold North</p>
<p>No more Warm shallow sea - no more warm drops of PoTi<br />
God of Rain PoTiDaOn becomes god of sea Poseidon</p>
<p>Are there any Inca wards in LINEAR B?<br />
Inca &#8212; pre-50m Himalaya Inca?</p>
<p>If we fail to research Inca - China will</p>
<p>Link<br />
<a href="http://muzeumsczytaja.info/page67.html" rel="nofollow">http://muzeumsczytaja.info/page67.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3951</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 11:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Olaf Witkowski
Please proofread my Polish in Inca knots
recorded in 26-A to Z over 4-cords
- mirror image reads R to L
www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page63.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Olaf Witkowski<br />
Please proofread my Polish in Inca knots<br />
recorded in 26-A to Z over 4-cords<br />
- mirror image reads R to L<br />
<a href="http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page63.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page63.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3945</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have too much on my plate to go for the Quipu - but if I was in my 20s/30s with the experience I have now at 80s

HOW would I go about the Inca Quipu?

First of all I would have to learn the Inca language
It is only by knowing the language it was done in that you can read it back
I would feed in the hard disk Inca songs folklore sayings proverbs prayers greetings - run it through the turns and study the printout for words syllables

With the aids we have now finding out what the Inca recorded should be a cup of tea.

If we fail to do the job - the Chinese looking for Zheng He will

The Holy Race in honour of Apollo is on
-- either we get there first
or the Chinese looking for Zheng He win the 
wild olive wreath

Link
www.olympicpoetry.org.uk/article11.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have too much on my plate to go for the Quipu - but if I was in my 20s/30s with the experience I have now at 80s</p>
<p>HOW would I go about the Inca Quipu?</p>
<p>First of all I would have to learn the Inca language<br />
It is only by knowing the language it was done in that you can read it back<br />
I would feed in the hard disk Inca songs folklore sayings proverbs prayers greetings - run it through the turns and study the printout for words syllables</p>
<p>With the aids we have now finding out what the Inca recorded should be a cup of tea.</p>
<p>If we fail to do the job - the Chinese looking for Zheng He will</p>
<p>The Holy Race in honour of Apollo is on<br />
&#8211; either we get there first<br />
or the Chinese looking for Zheng He win the<br />
wild olive wreath</p>
<p>Link<br />
<a href="http://www.olympicpoetry.org.uk/article11.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.olympicpoetry.org.uk/article11.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3944</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 11:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It took thousands of years 
for Egypt knots to evolve
Writing make the knot mute
Roseta Stone resurrect

For thousands of years
balladers telling Oral stories
Oral stories were written down
wiped out of memory obliterated
One book was found in Arab land
brought over to Europe 
translated into all languages 
the belief in many gods and goddesses
resurrected


Millennias of singing dancing games
in honour of Apollo evolved
wiped out of memory
Holy Games lay mute
Beijing Holy Games in Honour of Apollo
resurrecting

50m Himalaya extinct dinosaurs
new species evolved
herds humans migrating
Warm South - Cold North
Ordos Great Wall
put stop to seasonal migration
2,000 years living with
fabricated history
now Ch'in/Ordos story
resurrected

Quipu colour-code
Yellow for gold
Red for soldiers

or maybe

Yellow for Man Utd
Red for Chelsea
White for Apollo

The omens are good
Beijing is vigorously researching
mnemonic Oral Ages
Gesar Lhoba China Knot
Holy Games in honour of Apollo
is the latest

So are others
Israel India USA researching the Quipu

It is only a matter of time
and we shall hear 
what the Inca recorded in Knots</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It took thousands of years<br />
for Egypt knots to evolve<br />
Writing make the knot mute<br />
Roseta Stone resurrect</p>
<p>For thousands of years<br />
balladers telling Oral stories<br />
Oral stories were written down<br />
wiped out of memory obliterated<br />
One book was found in Arab land<br />
brought over to Europe<br />
translated into all languages<br />
the belief in many gods and goddesses<br />
resurrected</p>
<p>Millennias of singing dancing games<br />
in honour of Apollo evolved<br />
wiped out of memory<br />
Holy Games lay mute<br />
Beijing Holy Games in Honour of Apollo<br />
resurrecting</p>
<p>50m Himalaya extinct dinosaurs<br />
new species evolved<br />
herds humans migrating<br />
Warm South - Cold North<br />
Ordos Great Wall<br />
put stop to seasonal migration<br />
2,000 years living with<br />
fabricated history<br />
now Ch&#8217;in/Ordos story<br />
resurrected</p>
<p>Quipu colour-code<br />
Yellow for gold<br />
Red for soldiers</p>
<p>or maybe</p>
<p>Yellow for Man Utd<br />
Red for Chelsea<br />
White for Apollo</p>
<p>The omens are good<br />
Beijing is vigorously researching<br />
mnemonic Oral Ages<br />
Gesar Lhoba China Knot<br />
Holy Games in honour of Apollo<br />
is the latest</p>
<p>So are others<br />
Israel India USA researching the Quipu</p>
<p>It is only a matter of time<br />
and we shall hear<br />
what the Inca recorded in Knots</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3939</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 09:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Making the Knot

We dress the end with selotape
push the end inside the hollow quill
pull the quill out
pull the ends
lock the turns
make perfect Inca knot
on any string

Mnemonic Knot
Many-turns Knot is Inca knot.
How did Inca do the turns?
On quill?
If on quill - the end must have been dressed.

Quill or no quill
the end must have been dressed
to work it through the loop
How dressed?

How did Inca work the end?

If end not dressed
How did Inca work the end throught the loop?

Footprint/evidence might have survived on end of string

I have no access to Inca quipu
I have seen quipu once 30 years ago
in the British Museum
it was in glass box

Do we have research document on end of string?
---------------
I do my Inca knots in my front room.
Sack full of all kinds of strings
- table with drawer
tools in the drawer
Cup of tea by my side
It is a pleasure making quipu
working message in Inca knots

but the Inca - imagine
Inca alone in open field
alone under Heaven
Survival Quipu
making strings
making turns
working end
making Servival Knot.
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JACK and JILL
Paul said
No one solved the riddle yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Making the Knot</p>
<p>We dress the end with selotape<br />
push the end inside the hollow quill<br />
pull the quill out<br />
pull the ends<br />
lock the turns<br />
make perfect Inca knot<br />
on any string</p>
<p>Mnemonic Knot<br />
Many-turns Knot is Inca knot.<br />
How did Inca do the turns?<br />
On quill?<br />
If on quill - the end must have been dressed.</p>
<p>Quill or no quill<br />
the end must have been dressed<br />
to work it through the loop<br />
How dressed?</p>
<p>How did Inca work the end?</p>
<p>If end not dressed<br />
How did Inca work the end throught the loop?</p>
<p>Footprint/evidence might have survived on end of string</p>
<p>I have no access to Inca quipu<br />
I have seen quipu once 30 years ago<br />
in the British Museum<br />
it was in glass box</p>
<p>Do we have research document on end of string?<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
I do my Inca knots in my front room.<br />
Sack full of all kinds of strings<br />
- table with drawer<br />
tools in the drawer<br />
Cup of tea by my side<br />
It is a pleasure making quipu<br />
working message in Inca knots</p>
<p>but the Inca - imagine<br />
Inca alone in open field<br />
alone under Heaven<br />
Survival Quipu<br />
making strings<br />
making turns<br />
working end<br />
making Servival Knot.<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
JACK and JILL<br />
Paul said<br />
No one solved the riddle yet.</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3938</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 09:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Boguslaw Witkowski

ZA LWA - bij jak lew? makes sense.

ZE  LWA - po lwie? - jedz po lwie? lew zabil - lew zostawil - jedz po lwie - makes sense

ZLWA - zwierz - makes sense

BETA - bijta

DZIELTA - share it out - Kill the mammoth and share it out - makes sense 

GAMMA - gam ma co? GAM MA trabe - mammoth mamut

Bij jak lew - zabij mamuta - dziel mamuta- makes sense

OMEGA - plo miga

Written record goes back 12,000 years

How far back our MNEMONIC Oral Record?
The Great Flood -- 50m Himalaya
Adam and Eve dressed in fig leaf - that comes from pre-Himalaya when the earth was warm shallow sea - Adam and Eve dressed in fig leaf?

Now Shallow Sea bed six miles up on tip of Mt Everest
Chinese Anthartic expedition standing on egg-shaped stones on the hightst peak on Anthartic - so that was
shallow sea-bed once too.


Thank you Boguslaw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Boguslaw Witkowski</p>
<p>ZA LWA - bij jak lew? makes sense.</p>
<p>ZE  LWA - po lwie? - jedz po lwie? lew zabil - lew zostawil - jedz po lwie - makes sense</p>
<p>ZLWA - zwierz - makes sense</p>
<p>BETA - bijta</p>
<p>DZIELTA - share it out - Kill the mammoth and share it out - makes sense </p>
<p>GAMMA - gam ma co? GAM MA trabe - mammoth mamut</p>
<p>Bij jak lew - zabij mamuta - dziel mamuta- makes sense</p>
<p>OMEGA - plo miga</p>
<p>Written record goes back 12,000 years</p>
<p>How far back our MNEMONIC Oral Record?<br />
The Great Flood &#8212; 50m Himalaya<br />
Adam and Eve dressed in fig leaf - that comes from pre-Himalaya when the earth was warm shallow sea - Adam and Eve dressed in fig leaf?</p>
<p>Now Shallow Sea bed six miles up on tip of Mt Everest<br />
Chinese Anthartic expedition standing on egg-shaped stones on the hightst peak on Anthartic - so that was<br />
shallow sea-bed once too.</p>
<p>Thank you Boguslaw</p>
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		<title>By: Witkowski Boguslaw</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3902</link>
		<dc:creator>Witkowski Boguslaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZLWA BIJTA GAMMA DZIELTA should be read:
ZA LWA BIJTA GAMMA DZIELTA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ZLWA BIJTA GAMMA DZIELTA should be read:<br />
ZA LWA BIJTA GAMMA DZIELTA?</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3893</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would the respected quipu researchers please correct
my knots on quipu Number 91
www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page18.html

It is R to L and should read ZDOL
(Lodz, my hometown Lodz).

also please correct quipu Number 21 on page 11
It reads ONECHNA - turn 'i' missing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the respected quipu researchers please correct<br />
my knots on quipu Number 91<br />
<a href="http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page18.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page18.html</a></p>
<p>It is R to L and should read ZDOL<br />
(Lodz, my hometown Lodz).</p>
<p>also please correct quipu Number 21 on page 11<br />
It reads ONECHNA - turn &#8216;i&#8217; missing.</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3866</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 09:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a pub called Jack and Jill in Sussex by the Sea
that is offering pint of beer for free to man or woman 
reciting Inca knots

How did that came about?

70 years ago when I was 21 I was drinking beer in the Jack and Jill.
Now, at 81 I wanted to do something special for the pub of my youth

So I picked up Jack and Jill quipu and went with it to see Paul Harman the manager of the Jack and Jill pub

I give you £20 - you give pint of beer for free to man or woman
for reciting/interpreting Inca knots, said I.

Paul Harman accepted my offer and gave me receipt for the £20.
He put the quipu on the wall and now any man or woman
can ask for pint of beer for free reciting Inca knots

When the £20 runs out I'll give you a bell, said Paul

When the £20 runs out I'll give you £200 more
and when the £200 runs out I'll give you £2,000 more
and when the £2,000 runs out I'll give you £4,000 more
to keep Jack and Jill in pints of beer for free - that's a promise.

"Are you making this offeer to any other pub?" asked Paul.

No. There is only one pub in the world that is offering
pint of beer for free and that pub is the Jack and Jill
in Sussex by the Sea, I replied

Now I am laughing for the pub that is offering pint of beer for free.

I am inviting knot readers - and knot-proof readers for pint of beer for free at the Jack and Jill pub in Sussex by the Sea

May I put this on the internet? I asked. Paul Harman said Yes.

If you put it on the internet the Americans will be coming.
The Americans will spend £1,000 on air-ticket and £1,000 on hotel
and the Americans will be coming to the Jack and Jill for pint of beer for free -- the Americans are mad! said Marta.

I am inviting men and women to come anf enjoy pint of beer for free
at the Jack and Jill pub in Sussex by the Sea
and have fun reciting True Jack and Jill story off Inca knots

paul pawlowski, Keeper, Muzeum Sczytaja
16 April 2008 06:20

Mike, Joan, Paul &#38; Tony Harman
The Jack and Jill
Brighton Road, Clayton Nr. Hassocks, Sussex
tel. (01273)843595</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a pub called Jack and Jill in Sussex by the Sea<br />
that is offering pint of beer for free to man or woman<br />
reciting Inca knots</p>
<p>How did that came about?</p>
<p>70 years ago when I was 21 I was drinking beer in the Jack and Jill.<br />
Now, at 81 I wanted to do something special for the pub of my youth</p>
<p>So I picked up Jack and Jill quipu and went with it to see Paul Harman the manager of the Jack and Jill pub</p>
<p>I give you £20 - you give pint of beer for free to man or woman<br />
for reciting/interpreting Inca knots, said I.</p>
<p>Paul Harman accepted my offer and gave me receipt for the £20.<br />
He put the quipu on the wall and now any man or woman<br />
can ask for pint of beer for free reciting Inca knots</p>
<p>When the £20 runs out I&#8217;ll give you a bell, said Paul</p>
<p>When the £20 runs out I&#8217;ll give you £200 more<br />
and when the £200 runs out I&#8217;ll give you £2,000 more<br />
and when the £2,000 runs out I&#8217;ll give you £4,000 more<br />
to keep Jack and Jill in pints of beer for free - that&#8217;s a promise.</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you making this offeer to any other pub?&#8221; asked Paul.</p>
<p>No. There is only one pub in the world that is offering<br />
pint of beer for free and that pub is the Jack and Jill<br />
in Sussex by the Sea, I replied</p>
<p>Now I am laughing for the pub that is offering pint of beer for free.</p>
<p>I am inviting knot readers - and knot-proof readers for pint of beer for free at the Jack and Jill pub in Sussex by the Sea</p>
<p>May I put this on the internet? I asked. Paul Harman said Yes.</p>
<p>If you put it on the internet the Americans will be coming.<br />
The Americans will spend £1,000 on air-ticket and £1,000 on hotel<br />
and the Americans will be coming to the Jack and Jill for pint of beer for free &#8212; the Americans are mad! said Marta.</p>
<p>I am inviting men and women to come anf enjoy pint of beer for free<br />
at the Jack and Jill pub in Sussex by the Sea<br />
and have fun reciting True Jack and Jill story off Inca knots</p>
<p>paul pawlowski, Keeper, Muzeum Sczytaja<br />
16 April 2008 06:20</p>
<p>Mike, Joan, Paul &amp; Tony Harman<br />
The Jack and Jill<br />
Brighton Road, Clayton Nr. Hassocks, Sussex<br />
tel. (01273)843595</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3791</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 13:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I invite you to visit Lhoba knots in real use
Link
www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page59.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I invite you to visit Lhoba knots in real use<br />
Link<br />
<a href="http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page59.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page59.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3778</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acknowledgements
My first quipu was that blanket in HM Prison Wandsworth.
After prison I was popularising my 26 woollen strands quipu 
till
Miss Bard of British Museum directed me to Nordenskiold.
Looking at Nordenskiold 15 I have increased the turns to 26.
26-turns knot was improvement on 26-strands woollen -but I wasn't happy because the 26-knot was so long. Dividing it in half gave me 13-13 knot -- that was bit better but still too long. Dividing it over 4-cords gave me 6-6-6-8 -- that was better. Dividing it over 6
-- 4-4-4-4-4-6 was leaving too many empty cords - not desirable.
Practice has shown that 26-A to Z works best on 4-strands.

Who is the author of the Mnemonic Knot?
The Knot was here since 50m Himalaya - so was 
ZLWA BIJTA GAMMA DZIELTA
therefore nobody can claim authorship - nobody can claim copyright.

Who created the 26-A to Z knot out of Nordenskiold 15? I have
rised Nordenskiold 15 to 26 for my own use.
You may use it but please acknowledge.
Therefore all of us who breathed life into the Knot and made it speak
should be acknowledged and thanked
and in my case who contributed go in the hundreds.
Thank you.
-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acknowledgements<br />
My first quipu was that blanket in HM Prison Wandsworth.<br />
After prison I was popularising my 26 woollen strands quipu<br />
till<br />
Miss Bard of British Museum directed me to Nordenskiold.<br />
Looking at Nordenskiold 15 I have increased the turns to 26.<br />
26-turns knot was improvement on 26-strands woollen -but I wasn&#8217;t happy because the 26-knot was so long. Dividing it in half gave me 13-13 knot &#8212; that was bit better but still too long. Dividing it over 4-cords gave me 6-6-6-8 &#8212; that was better. Dividing it over 6<br />
&#8211; 4-4-4-4-4-6 was leaving too many empty cords - not desirable.<br />
Practice has shown that 26-A to Z works best on 4-strands.</p>
<p>Who is the author of the Mnemonic Knot?<br />
The Knot was here since 50m Himalaya - so was<br />
ZLWA BIJTA GAMMA DZIELTA<br />
therefore nobody can claim authorship - nobody can claim copyright.</p>
<p>Who created the 26-A to Z knot out of Nordenskiold 15? I have<br />
rised Nordenskiold 15 to 26 for my own use.<br />
You may use it but please acknowledge.<br />
Therefore all of us who breathed life into the Knot and made it speak<br />
should be acknowledged and thanked<br />
and in my case who contributed go in the hundreds.<br />
Thank you.<br />
-</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are starting Inca Quipu from Zero
www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page53.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are starting Inca Quipu from Zero<br />
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3757</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 10:28:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read somewhere that Quipu would go with Oral message 
-- the runner would carry the Quipu AND Oral message (Locke?)

But why run with quipu AND Oral message?

Could the knotted message be different to the Oral message
- a form of Special communication?

OK. I must try it out.

I felt honoured and delighted receiving letter from Sir Kenneth.
So I put my feelings for Sir Kenneth in Knots
I asked the postman to deliver my Quipu AND Oral message to him
I DON'T WANT TO RECEIVE ANY LETTERS FROM YOU

I have never heard from Sir Kenneth again - but did he read my knotted Quipu?

Did Sir Kenneth read my knotted Quipu
Did Sir Kenneth read my knotted Quipu?

Is that how the quipu AND Oral message worked at Inca?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read somewhere that Quipu would go with Oral message<br />
&#8211; the runner would carry the Quipu AND Oral message (Locke?)</p>
<p>But why run with quipu AND Oral message?</p>
<p>Could the knotted message be different to the Oral message<br />
- a form of Special communication?</p>
<p>OK. I must try it out.</p>
<p>I felt honoured and delighted receiving letter from Sir Kenneth.<br />
So I put my feelings for Sir Kenneth in Knots<br />
I asked the postman to deliver my Quipu AND Oral message to him<br />
I DON&#8217;T WANT TO RECEIVE ANY LETTERS FROM YOU</p>
<p>I have never heard from Sir Kenneth again - but did he read my knotted Quipu?</p>
<p>Did Sir Kenneth read my knotted Quipu<br />
Did Sir Kenneth read my knotted Quipu?</p>
<p>Is that how the quipu AND Oral message worked at Inca?</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3755</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How was the Inca write/read?

From L to R
        R to L
        L to R
        R to L
See footprint Attica script c.550 - 540 BC
www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page37.html

Sir Kenneth Dover once asked me
Was the Knot on this side?
"The Knot is in Egypt hierogryphs together with the loop -Locke 

Did this side get the Knot from the other side?
Attic Ancestor learn write/read from the other side?

or was it the other way round
the other side got the Knot from this side?

And when?
this side of 50m Himalaya?
or the other side?

Reminiscence
I came to Britain as teenager just about read/write because of the War.
In Polish bookshop in Knightsbridge I bought two books
Pol/Eng dictionary and anthalogy of Polish poetry

Those were the first books I bought in my life

The anthalogy said First Polish was written in IX century Zdrowas Mario

That fired my imagination - How was it before - where did the language came from? OK. First written IX C. - but when First spoken?

Thats how it started</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How was the Inca write/read?</p>
<p>From L to R<br />
        R to L<br />
        L to R<br />
        R to L<br />
See footprint Attica script c.550 - 540 BC<br />
<a href="http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page37.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page37.html</a></p>
<p>Sir Kenneth Dover once asked me<br />
Was the Knot on this side?<br />
&#8220;The Knot is in Egypt hierogryphs together with the loop -Locke </p>
<p>Did this side get the Knot from the other side?<br />
Attic Ancestor learn write/read from the other side?</p>
<p>or was it the other way round<br />
the other side got the Knot from this side?</p>
<p>And when?<br />
this side of 50m Himalaya?<br />
or the other side?</p>
<p>Reminiscence<br />
I came to Britain as teenager just about read/write because of the War.<br />
In Polish bookshop in Knightsbridge I bought two books<br />
Pol/Eng dictionary and anthalogy of Polish poetry</p>
<p>Those were the first books I bought in my life</p>
<p>The anthalogy said First Polish was written in IX century Zdrowas Mario</p>
<p>That fired my imagination - How was it before - where did the language came from? OK. First written IX C. - but when First spoken?</p>
<p>Thats how it started</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3754</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:53:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>6,000 years Inca technology.

Scholars are telling us the Quipu was in use 6,000 years.
Lots of technology must have evolved over the centuries.
How was the Inca doing it?

Inca using colour code.
I am not using colour code because I have no need for it
- but I do tint the string
to see the Turns better

I buy 200 metres of nylon string.
Selotape round the string - cut off the required length
Needle it through the Main Cold
Now the Quipu is ready to work

I do my ABC-turns on Soft Drink Straw.
All my Knots
2-turns Knot -- 42-turns Knot have been done on Straw.

Do the Turns on Straw
- put the end of the string inside the Straw
-pull the straw out
pull the ends and I have my Inca Knot
- not having lost a Turn.

What tools was the Inca using doing the Knot?
How was the Inca putting the string through the loop?
How was the Inca doing the Knot?

Is somebody looking at footprints of Inca technology?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6,000 years Inca technology.</p>
<p>Scholars are telling us the Quipu was in use 6,000 years.<br />
Lots of technology must have evolved over the centuries.<br />
How was the Inca doing it?</p>
<p>Inca using colour code.<br />
I am not using colour code because I have no need for it<br />
- but I do tint the string<br />
to see the Turns better</p>
<p>I buy 200 metres of nylon string.<br />
Selotape round the string - cut off the required length<br />
Needle it through the Main Cold<br />
Now the Quipu is ready to work</p>
<p>I do my ABC-turns on Soft Drink Straw.<br />
All my Knots<br />
2-turns Knot &#8212; 42-turns Knot have been done on Straw.</p>
<p>Do the Turns on Straw<br />
- put the end of the string inside the Straw<br />
-pull the straw out<br />
pull the ends and I have my Inca Knot<br />
- not having lost a Turn.</p>
<p>What tools was the Inca using doing the Knot?<br />
How was the Inca putting the string through the loop?<br />
How was the Inca doing the Knot?</p>
<p>Is somebody looking at footprints of Inca technology?</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3721</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Health &#38; Safety Executive please take notice
Inca Knots work and safety alert

We work Inca Knots in nylon strings using tools
- the scissor - the needle - the knife.

NEVER use flame on nylon string

Welder lit cigarette - put the gas lighter in his pocket
-continued welding - spark burn through his trauser
- gas lighter exploded blew his leg off.

Working inca knot we need clean end to put the string through the loop
-- put selotape round the string - scissor-cut through the selotape to obtain clean end - but

NEVER use flame working nylon string
- gas lighter explode blow your head off!!!
NEVER use flame working Inca Knot nylon string.

NEVER let child work the needle.
I was working quipu
-- the needle fell on the carpet
I step on it
had to go to hospital operation to get it out

Work Inca Knot safely 
I had quipu stall at a meeting in Haywards Heath.
Mums with children were at the meeting.
Children were looking at me making the Inca Knot
and asking for bit of string

Child would take the nylon string
make ABC turns on his finger
recording his/her name in Inca Knot.

Always supervise children playing nylon Inca Knot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Health &amp; Safety Executive please take notice<br />
Inca Knots work and safety alert</p>
<p>We work Inca Knots in nylon strings using tools<br />
- the scissor - the needle - the knife.</p>
<p>NEVER use flame on nylon string</p>
<p>Welder lit cigarette - put the gas lighter in his pocket<br />
-continued welding - spark burn through his trauser<br />
- gas lighter exploded blew his leg off.</p>
<p>Working inca knot we need clean end to put the string through the loop<br />
&#8211; put selotape round the string - scissor-cut through the selotape to obtain clean end - but</p>
<p>NEVER use flame working nylon string<br />
- gas lighter explode blow your head off!!!<br />
NEVER use flame working Inca Knot nylon string.</p>
<p>NEVER let child work the needle.<br />
I was working quipu<br />
&#8211; the needle fell on the carpet<br />
I step on it<br />
had to go to hospital operation to get it out</p>
<p>Work Inca Knot safely<br />
I had quipu stall at a meeting in Haywards Heath.<br />
Mums with children were at the meeting.<br />
Children were looking at me making the Inca Knot<br />
and asking for bit of string</p>
<p>Child would take the nylon string<br />
make ABC turns on his finger<br />
recording his/her name in Inca Knot.</p>
<p>Always supervise children playing nylon Inca Knot.</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3705</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 09:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like quipu researchers to visit Jack and Jill in Knots

7-turns in Inca Quipu Knot telling us the True Story of Jack and Jill

http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page45.html

correction
JACK JILL is knot-mispelled in the webpage
One 4-turn knot (JACK) should be One-turn knot
Two 4-turns knots (JILL) should be 3-turn knots

Would the respected quipu researchers 
correct the knots for me please
Thank you.

Links
http://www.rhymes.org.uk/jack_and_jill.html
http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page45.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like quipu researchers to visit Jack and Jill in Knots</p>
<p>7-turns in Inca Quipu Knot telling us the True Story of Jack and Jill</p>
<p><a href="http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page45.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page45.html</a></p>
<p>correction<br />
JACK JILL is knot-mispelled in the webpage<br />
One 4-turn knot (JACK) should be One-turn knot<br />
Two 4-turns knots (JILL) should be 3-turn knots</p>
<p>Would the respected quipu researchers<br />
correct the knots for me please<br />
Thank you.</p>
<p>Links<br />
<a href="http://www.rhymes.org.uk/jack_and_jill.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.rhymes.org.uk/jack_and_jill.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page45.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.muzeumsczytaja.info/page45.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I made my first quipu in HM Prison cell Wandsworth
The only thing in my prison cell 'strings' was the woollen blanket
I pulled out 26 strands from the blanket and recorded One World in knots
Link
India-Forum.Com-1st Anniversary

When I got out of prison I bought ball of knitting wool and registered trading company 
Scytaios Quipu and Knot Writing Co Ltd
I wanted to put the woollen quipu on the market


People sending postcards from Blackpool
-- why not send Blackpool greetings in Knots?

Blackpool Council had no selling point
-- Try John Lewis - they have stands to let, they advised

John Lewis manager listened -- looked at me doing 
GREETINGS FROM BLACKPOOL in knots and said
Its a novelty - it may take.
How much do you expect to take a day?
Fifteen quid? I said.
My booble gum man takes 700 a day, said he.
There was nothing more to be said and I left.

How come 15 quid?
Because it takes about two hours to construct a woollen quipu 
Another hour for knotting the message
Sell 5 quipus a day 3 quid each - 15 quid, I reckoned

There must be easier way
I asked Bradford Textile College if woollen quipu could be done on machine
The instructor took me down to the machine shop - demonstrated string-making - carpet making machine. Carpet making machine would be the closest to make woollen quipu, he said, - and added
But designers could design machine to do it.
How much would that cost?
About £250,000 he said.
I lost interest marketing the quipu.
For the next 35 years I was earning my living working in toolmaking
saving for my retirement
and researching Quipu for the love of it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I made my first quipu in HM Prison cell Wandsworth<br />
The only thing in my prison cell &#8217;strings&#8217; was the woollen blanket<br />
I pulled out 26 strands from the blanket and recorded One World in knots<br />
Link<br />
India-Forum.Com-1st Anniversary</p>
<p>When I got out of prison I bought ball of knitting wool and registered trading company<br />
Scytaios Quipu and Knot Writing Co Ltd<br />
I wanted to put the woollen quipu on the market</p>
<p>People sending postcards from Blackpool<br />
&#8211; why not send Blackpool greetings in Knots?</p>
<p>Blackpool Council had no selling point<br />
&#8211; Try John Lewis - they have stands to let, they advised</p>
<p>John Lewis manager listened &#8212; looked at me doing<br />
GREETINGS FROM BLACKPOOL in knots and said<br />
Its a novelty - it may take.<br />
How much do you expect to take a day?<br />
Fifteen quid? I said.<br />
My booble gum man takes 700 a day, said he.<br />
There was nothing more to be said and I left.</p>
<p>How come 15 quid?<br />
Because it takes about two hours to construct a woollen quipu<br />
Another hour for knotting the message<br />
Sell 5 quipus a day 3 quid each - 15 quid, I reckoned</p>
<p>There must be easier way<br />
I asked Bradford Textile College if woollen quipu could be done on machine<br />
The instructor took me down to the machine shop - demonstrated string-making - carpet making machine. Carpet making machine would be the closest to make woollen quipu, he said, - and added<br />
But designers could design machine to do it.<br />
How much would that cost?<br />
About £250,000 he said.<br />
I lost interest marketing the quipu.<br />
For the next 35 years I was earning my living working in toolmaking<br />
saving for my retirement<br />
and researching Quipu for the love of it</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3698</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 14:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miss Bard directed me to Nordenskiold
My local public library gave me Nordenskiold on loan
I asked Swedish embassy for permission to reproduce from Nordenskiold
The embassy sent my request to Nordenskiold museum in Sweden
Curator replied - he said Erland Nordenskiold was the curator but he died - his book was published more than 50 years ago therefore copyright restriction no longer apply - you may reproduce.
I made photocopy of Nordenskiold 15 for my own use.

Looking at Nordenskiold 15 I understood how the Inca knot is done.

I was working Inca knots for the next 25 years
I would work Inca knot on any string at hand
The many-turns became my A to Z
-- and it all started in HM Prison cell Wandsworth.

I was recording names in knots working A to Z turns.
My workmates have been asking me to record in knots name of his/her child which I was delighted to do
My shopfloor mates became my knot-readers.
Nay! Colin Smith was my quipu proofreader - he was correcting my recording.
So was my doctor Dr Plant. 
So was Degyi in Beijing (Degyi: "you missed the 't' --  the shoelace was not long enough to do the 't')
I was using more than one Key for recording
Dr Plant called me once - he couldn't read my quipu
No No No! - this one is not A to Z -- the Key for this one is Jack and Jill.
In the New Millennium Year I got an idea - I'll put Nordenskiold quipus in knots on nylon strings - make Hard Copy of Nordenskiold Inca  quipus on nylon string - make it for my own use - to study Inca quipu reproduced in nylon strings

I applied to my librarian for Nordenskiold again
This is what I got in reply:

Dear Mr Pawlowski
Secret of the Peruvian Quipus: Comparative Ethnographical Studies by Erland Nordenskiold
With reference to your request for he above item made at Burgess Hill Library, I regret that I have been unable to trace copies for loan in the United Kingdom. However, I understand that this title is avaliable for reference use only at 

Museum of Mankind
6 Burlington Gardens
LONDON
W1X 2EX

I am sorry that you have been disappointed on this occasion.
however, I enclose a request voucher which you may use for an alternative item
Yours sincerely, etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miss Bard directed me to Nordenskiold<br />
My local public library gave me Nordenskiold on loan<br />
I asked Swedish embassy for permission to reproduce from Nordenskiold<br />
The embassy sent my request to Nordenskiold museum in Sweden<br />
Curator replied - he said Erland Nordenskiold was the curator but he died - his book was published more than 50 years ago therefore copyright restriction no longer apply - you may reproduce.<br />
I made photocopy of Nordenskiold 15 for my own use.</p>
<p>Looking at Nordenskiold 15 I understood how the Inca knot is done.</p>
<p>I was working Inca knots for the next 25 years<br />
I would work Inca knot on any string at hand<br />
The many-turns became my A to Z<br />
&#8211; and it all started in HM Prison cell Wandsworth.</p>
<p>I was recording names in knots working A to Z turns.<br />
My workmates have been asking me to record in knots name of his/her child which I was delighted to do<br />
My shopfloor mates became my knot-readers.<br />
Nay! Colin Smith was my quipu proofreader - he was correcting my recording.<br />
So was my doctor Dr Plant.<br />
So was Degyi in Beijing (Degyi: &#8220;you missed the &#8216;t&#8217; &#8212;  the shoelace was not long enough to do the &#8216;t&#8217;)<br />
I was using more than one Key for recording<br />
Dr Plant called me once - he couldn&#8217;t read my quipu<br />
No No No! - this one is not A to Z &#8212; the Key for this one is Jack and Jill.<br />
In the New Millennium Year I got an idea - I&#8217;ll put Nordenskiold quipus in knots on nylon strings - make Hard Copy of Nordenskiold Inca  quipus on nylon string - make it for my own use - to study Inca quipu reproduced in nylon strings</p>
<p>I applied to my librarian for Nordenskiold again<br />
This is what I got in reply:</p>
<p>Dear Mr Pawlowski<br />
Secret of the Peruvian Quipus: Comparative Ethnographical Studies by Erland Nordenskiold<br />
With reference to your request for he above item made at Burgess Hill Library, I regret that I have been unable to trace copies for loan in the United Kingdom. However, I understand that this title is avaliable for reference use only at </p>
<p>Museum of Mankind<br />
6 Burlington Gardens<br />
LONDON<br />
W1X 2EX</p>
<p>I am sorry that you have been disappointed on this occasion.<br />
however, I enclose a request voucher which you may use for an alternative item<br />
Yours sincerely, etc</p>
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		<title>By: paul pawlowski</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/454#comment-3697</link>
		<dc:creator>paul pawlowski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy New Year!
Wishing Dr Urton Quipu success!

I have seen Inca Quipu at the British Museum once.
Miss Bard of British Museum directed me to Nordenskiold Locke.
Nordenskiold Quipus in groups of 6-cords. Why in groups of 6 cords?

Speech is made up of about 40 sounds
about 400 syllables
about 30,000 words
We work 26-A to Z
What was Inca?
26-A to Z is in graphic Knots &#38; in mnemonic strands
26-A to Z works best on 4-mnemonic strands
Inca Knots on 6 mnemonic strands -- Why?

Our 26-key
Inca 40-Key?

Inca recording Key of 40 sounds?
40-sounds Inca Key divided over 6 cords?
Longest on 6-cords - 6-turns Inca Quipu Knot?
If the Knots/strings is 40 sounds -- the Quipu must be
very ancient thing -- pre-50m Himalaya?

I think you would need to be fluent in Inca language
and have Inca Soul in your heart to work Inca Quipu.
Just as we are fluent in our language
and have A to Z Key in our heart

What about convening Quipu conference?
Linguists, historians, indigeneous, mathematics,
informatics zoologists geologists computing 
the scientific community -- all would be interested.

For Lhoba/China mnemonics contact
Degyi China's Tibet Magazine
135 Fuyoujie Street Beijing 100031 China

Thank you USA
Good Luck Dr Urton</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy New Year!<br />
Wishing Dr Urton Quipu success!</p>
<p>I have seen Inca Quipu at the British Museum once.<br />
Miss Bard of British Museum directed me to Nordenskiold Locke.<br />
Nordenskiold Quipus in groups of 6-cords. Why in groups of 6 cords?</p>
<p>Speech is made up of about 40 sounds<br />
about 400 syllables<br />
about 30,000 words<br />
We work 26-A to Z<br />
What was Inca?<br />
26-A to Z is in graphic Knots &amp; in mnemonic strands<br />
26-A to Z works best on 4-mnemonic strands<br />
Inca Knots on 6 mnemonic strands &#8212; Why?</p>
<p>Our 26-key<br />
Inca 40-Key?</p>
<p>Inca recording Key of 40 sounds?<br />
40-sounds Inca Key divided over 6 cords?<br />
Longest on 6-cords - 6-turns Inca Quipu Knot?<br />
If the Knots/strings is 40 sounds &#8212; the Quipu must be<br />
very ancient thing &#8212; pre-50m Himalaya?</p>
<p>I think you would need to be fluent in Inca language<br />
and have Inca Soul in your heart to work Inca Quipu.<br />
Just as we are fluent in our language<br />
and have A to Z Key in our heart</p>
<p>What about convening Quipu conference?<br />
Linguists, historians, indigeneous, mathematics,<br />
informatics zoologists geologists computing<br />
the scientific community &#8212; all would be interested.</p>
<p>For Lhoba/China mnemonics contact<br />
Degyi China&#8217;s Tibet Magazine<br />
135 Fuyoujie Street Beijing 100031 China</p>
<p>Thank you USA<br />
Good Luck Dr Urton</p>
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