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	<description>Religion. Brain. Dogen. Language. Japan.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sushil_yadav</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/504#comment-656</link>
		<dc:creator>sushil_yadav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;The link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues.&lt;/b&gt; 

The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature. 

&lt;b&gt;Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.&lt;/b&gt; 

Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct. 
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel. 
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet. 
Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist. 


Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking. 

If there are no gaps there is no emotion. 

Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion. 


When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing. 

There comes a time when there are almost no gaps. 

People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps. 

Emotion ends. 

Man becomes machine. 



A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety. 

A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety. 

A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety. 



&lt;span class="caps"&gt;FAST&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;VISUALS&lt;/span&gt; /&lt;span class="caps"&gt;WORDS&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;MAKE&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;SLOW&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;EMOTIONS&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;EXTINCT&lt;/span&gt;. 

&lt;span class="caps"&gt;SCIENTIFIC&lt;/span&gt; /&lt;span class="caps"&gt;INDUSTRIAL&lt;/span&gt; /&lt;span class="caps"&gt;FINANCIAL&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;THINKING&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;DESTROYS&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;EMOTIONAL&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CIRCUITS&lt;/span&gt;. 

A &lt;span class="caps"&gt;FAST&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span class="caps"&gt;LARGE&lt;/span&gt;) &lt;span class="caps"&gt;SOCIETY&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CANNOT&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;FEEL&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;PAIN&lt;/span&gt; / &lt;span class="caps"&gt;REMORSE&lt;/span&gt; / &lt;span class="caps"&gt;EMPATHY&lt;/span&gt;. 

A &lt;span class="caps"&gt;FAST&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span class="caps"&gt;LARGE&lt;/span&gt;) &lt;span class="caps"&gt;SOCIETY&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;WILL&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;ALWAYS&lt;/span&gt; BE &lt;span class="caps"&gt;CRUEL&lt;/span&gt; TO &lt;span class="caps"&gt;ANIMALS&lt;/span&gt;/ &lt;span class="caps"&gt;TREES&lt;/span&gt;/ &lt;span class="caps"&gt;AIR&lt;/span&gt;/ &lt;span class="caps"&gt;WATER&lt;/span&gt;/ &lt;span class="caps"&gt;LAND&lt;/span&gt; &lt;span class="caps"&gt;AND&lt;/span&gt; TO &lt;span class="caps"&gt;ITSELF&lt;/span&gt;. 


To read the complete article please follow either of these links : 

&lt;a href="http://www.planetsave.com/ps_mambo/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&#038;Itemid=75&#038;func=view&#038;id=68&#038;catid=6"&gt;PlanetSave&lt;/a&gt; 

&lt;a href="http://www.earthnewswire.com/index.php?option=com_forum&#038;Itemid=89&#038;page=viewtopic&#038;t=11"&gt;EarthNewsWire&lt;/a&gt; 


sushil_yadav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>The link between Mind and Social / Environmental-Issues.</b> </p>
<p>The fast-paced, consumerist lifestyle of Industrial Society is causing exponential rise in psychological problems besides destroying the environment. All issues are interlinked. Our Minds cannot be peaceful when attention-spans are down to nanoseconds, microseconds and milliseconds. Our Minds cannot be peaceful if we destroy Nature. </p>
<p><b>Industrial Society Destroys Mind and Environment.</b> </p>
<p>Subject : In a fast society slow emotions become extinct.<br />
Subject : A thinking mind cannot feel.<br />
Subject : Scientific/ Industrial/ Financial thinking destroys the planet.<br />
Subject : Environment can never be saved as long as cities exist. </p>
<p>Emotion is what we experience during gaps in our thinking. </p>
<p>If there are no gaps there is no emotion. </p>
<p>Today people are thinking all the time and are mistaking thought (words/ language) for emotion. </p>
<p>When society switches-over from physical work (agriculture) to mental work (scientific/ industrial/ financial/ fast visuals/ fast words ) the speed of thinking keeps on accelerating and the gaps between thinking go on decreasing. </p>
<p>There comes a time when there are almost no gaps. </p>
<p>People become incapable of experiencing/ tolerating gaps. </p>
<p>Emotion ends. </p>
<p>Man becomes machine. </p>
<p>A society that speeds up mentally experiences every mental slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety. </p>
<p>A ( travelling )society that speeds up physically experiences every physical slowing-down as Depression / Anxiety. </p>
<p>A society that entertains itself daily experiences every non-entertaining moment as Depression / Anxiety. </p>
<p><span class="caps">FAST</span> <span class="caps">VISUALS</span> /<span class="caps">WORDS</span> <span class="caps">MAKE</span> <span class="caps">SLOW</span> <span class="caps">EMOTIONS</span> <span class="caps">EXTINCT</span>. </p>
<p><span class="caps">SCIENTIFIC</span> /<span class="caps">INDUSTRIAL</span> /<span class="caps">FINANCIAL</span> <span class="caps">THINKING</span> <span class="caps">DESTROYS</span> <span class="caps">EMOTIONAL</span> <span class="caps">CIRCUITS</span>. </p>
<p>A <span class="caps">FAST</span> (<span class="caps">LARGE</span>) <span class="caps">SOCIETY</span> <span class="caps">CANNOT</span> <span class="caps">FEEL</span> <span class="caps">PAIN</span> / <span class="caps">REMORSE</span> / <span class="caps">EMPATHY</span>. </p>
<p>A <span class="caps">FAST</span> (<span class="caps">LARGE</span>) <span class="caps">SOCIETY</span> <span class="caps">WILL</span> <span class="caps">ALWAYS</span> BE <span class="caps">CRUEL</span> TO <span class="caps">ANIMALS</span>/ <span class="caps">TREES</span>/ <span class="caps">AIR</span>/ <span class="caps">WATER</span>/ <span class="caps">LAND</span> <span class="caps">AND</span> TO <span class="caps">ITSELF</span>. </p>
<p>To read the complete article please follow either of these links : </p>
<p><a href="http://www.planetsave.com/ps_mambo/index.php?option=com_simpleboard&#038;Itemid=75&#038;func=view&#038;id=68&#038;catid=6">PlanetSave</a> </p>
<p><a href="http://www.earthnewswire.com/index.php?option=com_forum&#038;Itemid=89&#038;page=viewtopic&#038;t=11">EarthNewsWire</a> </p>
<p>sushil_yadav</p>
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		<title>By: mogg</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/504#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>mogg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2006 02:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buddhism fought and divided tibet for the majority of its history. Butan and tibet, until just before tibets &#8216;return&#8217; to china had still at war. The 2 major sects (the red hats(big wheel buddhism) and yellow hats(small wheel buddhism)) had been killing each other off for years- Tibet red, butan yellow. And japan nearly collapsed into full civil war several times over the buddhist monastries control of major parts of land. With the coming of tokugawa shogunate limiting their powers considerably this ended. Some temples in Kyoto are still know today for the relaxed behaviour of the monks then. Same can be said of china at the end of nearly every dynasty. Buddhism like all religions has its dark side. 

Feudal Japan and trees- end of 1600 they had none, they learnt ,like communist china, the hard way, took them 50 years to correct this. Majority of forest outside of hokkaido is man made. 

If you are only concerned about religions effects on a country,then when religion in history become powerful and influential; a massive body of oppression and influence instead of enlightenment, then i leads to that countrys&#8217; collapse. When holding personal beliefs (without religion) are promoted, or others beliefs accepted without prejudice or attempts to correct their outlook, a country tends to be successful- especially with as little or no religion as you can - look at romes fall;  christianitys&#8217; rise as a powerful religion and its disdain of everything else &#8216;pagan&#8217; helped lead to the collapse of the empire and 2000 years of death and agony across the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buddhism fought and divided tibet for the majority of its history. Butan and tibet, until just before tibets &#8216;return&#8217; to china had still at war. The 2 major sects (the red hats(big wheel buddhism) and yellow hats(small wheel buddhism)) had been killing each other off for years- Tibet red, butan yellow. And japan nearly collapsed into full civil war several times over the buddhist monastries control of major parts of land. With the coming of tokugawa shogunate limiting their powers considerably this ended. Some temples in Kyoto are still know today for the relaxed behaviour of the monks then. Same can be said of china at the end of nearly every dynasty. Buddhism like all religions has its dark side. </p>
<p>Feudal Japan and trees- end of 1600 they had none, they learnt ,like communist china, the hard way, took them 50 years to correct this. Majority of forest outside of hokkaido is man made. </p>
<p>If you are only concerned about religions effects on a country,then when religion in history become powerful and influential; a massive body of oppression and influence instead of enlightenment, then i leads to that countrys&#8217; collapse. When holding personal beliefs (without religion) are promoted, or others beliefs accepted without prejudice or attempts to correct their outlook, a country tends to be successful- especially with as little or no religion as you can - look at romes fall;  christianitys&#8217; rise as a powerful religion and its disdain of everything else &#8216;pagan&#8217; helped lead to the collapse of the empire and 2000 years of death and agony across the world.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidD</title>
		<link>http://www.numenware.com/article/504#comment-352</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 16:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#8217;s much easier to predict the past than the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s much easier to predict the past than the future.</p>
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